franchi momentum elite vs tikka t3

Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. I had settled on this for my next rifle based on the Weatherguard coating, price and MOA accuracy guarantee but now it seems we may never see them. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. I\m in northern Arizona and hunt in everything from dense forest to open desert, shots rarely over 400 yards. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. I like the Sig Cross because its lightweight, easily adjustable to fit me or my kids, very accurate, and the short barrel and folding stock make it easily packable for hunts. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. Zero quality control issues. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. Would like to buy a Tikka Super Varmint barrel and action with MDT chassis but am also considering Bergara UpR. The scope I bought is a Sea Adler, 3x9x40. If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Never shot 6.5 but all I hear are good things whats your opinion. It weighs a little heavy per the stats, Ill admit but at that price point, its very hard to ignore especially since lightweight after-market chassis can cost as much as the base model B-14, Rem 700, Tikka T3, etc. Does that make sense from what I\ve mentioned? I am stuck between the tikka t3x and the Bergara b14. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. Thanks. However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. Thoughts? Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. Ive been eyeing them for a while, but the MPR turned me off from the chassis rifles. I have fond memories of my Weatherby, but the last few years its spent more time in my gun safe while I pack smaller calibers. Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. I really like the stock design. How is it Franchis fault again? ITs one of hte most versatile calibers since you can load down to 125 gr bullets and turn it into a .243 in recoil to train kids with a light load. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. I might add when I got back to the car even with all that grease and oil on my gun I still sprayed it down with WD40 and again when I got it home and dried everything off. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. If you had 1500-2500 just for one, which make would you drop that cash on? The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. Man I really love your reviews! I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. what makes it a Bergara? I recall in a vid you talked about hunting with Mosin Nagans, the Russian 30.06! Wow, what a shooter! 1. can be top loaded, Jim. I really like the sig cross but I cant decide between 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor, or if I should instead go for a different rifle with chamberings more suitable for my kind of hunting and if so what chamberings and rifles would you suggest. Bought a vanguard series 2 in 270cant wait to shoot it put a leupold 3x9x50 ..I have 1400.00 in it first expensive gun Ive ever owned.wish me luck, The rifle you are selling that is under $350 thats quiet what caliber is it and who makes it need more information please thank you. I really love your channel. Hi Jim The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. If youre patient and know what youre doing. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. I know I have expediencies it. Going to take the plungedeep. stock not sticky yet? (Great videos by the way!!). Doesnt do it when there is no round in the chamber. Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. Christensen MPR The MPR looks fantastic, but I do feel like its a little bit of lipstick on a pig. Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. Gun #: 932303293. I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. As did locking it. I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. Is it worth it? In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. Is the bergara name worth it? I had a question on my first rifle purchase. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. Thanks for the content you put out! All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. My concern is that with your test, the vanguard with a #2 profile barrel threw shot #5 basically everytime. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. I think many of us started on something like that, dads old rifle or grandpas. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Is there a far better option for the money? Im thinking a 6 creedmoore with a proof carbon barrel, MDT onyx chassis, timmey trigger but cant decide on the action. 99% sure the next rifle is the sig cross but real question is 6.5 cm or .308 I cant decide. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. Manse, he actually has a point this time. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? You know Beretta will not support either rifle. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. Likely sub-half-MOA. If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. Thanks. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? Its a scaled down, lighter weight Sako TRG action with a Sako barrel and trigger. I love it. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. I dont say that lightly. Your email address will not be published. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use My main gun is a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Those that do could at least be highlighted. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! The scope hasnt moved for years now and I have shot it quite a bit. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. Glad that rifle is a shooter. Thanks, I enjoy watching you on YouTube and its really nice to see your reviews before purchasing guns and related stuff. The Tikka T3 features a standard box 3 round magazine but certain models come with a 4 round magazine. Affordable? I dont know if wood and metal rifles are extinct but it looks that way in Scheels. Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. Magazine Comparison: The Browning X-Bolt features a 4 round detachable polymer rotary magazine. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have. The stock feels really cheesy. The pistol grip is thicker than on many similar stocks, which I appreciate a lot, but at the same time a little more palm swell wouldnt hurt. Im looking for a great elk rifle/big game in left handed. Question. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. (weight) I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. Its a crisp, clean, single-stage trigger with no slack or take-up and a nice break. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Jim, For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . I would love to see you review a Lithgow la102 from Australia. Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. Thanks for doing great work. Two shots were thrown right out of the group and the barrel was not yet even very warm. The Momentum Elite comes with a detachable box-type magazine that holds three or four cartridges (depending on the caliber) for fast, safe and easy loading and unloading. The Winchester Model 70 should be the rifle you compare all the others too. Benelli Lupo should had definitely made the list Better rifle than most others mentioned in my honest opinion. Both the Momentum Elite and the newer Tikka Veil are . Hi Jim, With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. Which one do you recommend, God-bless you for being a second amendment supporter I will pray for you your wife and your family God-bless, Wow! P.S. enything under 2k. Specifications: Franchi Momentum in .308 Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Capacity: 4+1 Barrel Length: 22 inches Twist Rate: 1:11 Overall Length: 42.3 inches Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Weight: 6.6 pounds MSRP: $609 ( about $450 retail) Buy FRANCHI MOMENTUM For Sale Price - New and Used - In Stock Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. Great deal. Im looking for a 7mm-08 in a left handed model. Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. Shot yesterday and shot at 200, 300 and 400 yards, 1/2-3/4 MOA. Iv shot most all I wouldnt hesitate to recommend a Weatherby if you find one in a cartridge you like, or if you dont mind shooting Weatherbys overbore cartridges. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? Franchi talks up the ergonomics of the Momentum big time on their website. So, too, will the rifles 2-position safety allow you to load and unload safely. this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. Meet the Franchi Momentum Bolt-Action Rifle. I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. We have a complete post on the best rifles under $400 right here. Really enjoy your channel and dialogue on your reviews. Even on safe, the bolt can be manipulated to chamber or eject a round. What about the Winchester Model 70? Italian? I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! Which takes of the other half of recoil . Ha! Great review. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. I do have a question that I hope you will address. It feels almost as rigid as concrete, and thats a good thing. Dumb! Any help deciding? It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. The stock and barrel is nothing special unless someone could chime in as to why it is different than all the others plastic stocks? They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles Also, I think the X-Bolt Pro just isnt bringing enough to the table for doubling the price over a regular X-Bolt. Just how it shot when the time came. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. (Solid review on your part.). Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Love your content man, great job building the channel and the webpage. Great choice in a gun. Probably going to be the Waypoint. or browning. The internal box magazine holds four rounds. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 1 is the Footprint for the Action is proprietary, It is NOT made by Bergara. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. Its actually a piece of cake. The Vanguard does come in quite a few cartridges, but retail stores will only give them so many spots on the shelves, and since Weatherby is always pushing its own cartridges, its common to not find the chambering youre looking for without special ordering it. $599.99. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. Dont get me wrong. Would I buy this rifle? Not sure what caliber you tested the bergara b14 ridge in but, I bought one from Scheels last year in 6.5 prc and it would scratch up the casings, and jam up on the last round. I see that you really like the Savage, but I was wondering if you have shot the Howa? **sorry for posting this comment on another article, but I guess this is the more suitable article for this discussion. I like the straight comb with minimal drop and I found the cheek weld comfortable. Way sub-MOA. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. Might want to hold off a month or so. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Synthetic as in black plastic, to be clear, not as in carbon fiber or some other fancy stuff. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! And contrary to most German rifles today, the barrel is threaded into the reciever (not heat shrunk). funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. The gun feels good in hand and the trigger feels great. I love to hunt white tail deer in Arkansas. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). Keep the good work buddy on your show. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. Thank you. That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle break.MOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. Jim love your channel. The franchi momentum: a ruger american copy - Long Range Hunting Forum The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. They are also slippery when wet and ice cold to touch in winter. Savage 110? Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? Removable e Box Magazine (Large Capacity) Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? Went on my first hunt (elk) this October. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. At the back of the bolt shroud, the firing pin protrudes to show cocked status (as seen above) and is flush with the rear of the bolt shroud when not cocked. My search is with an elk/mule deer hunt in mind. The other option is the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Also, the very aged sporter stock design doesnt lend itself well to shooting long rangeespecially in such a light rifle. Holy Moses, what an incredible rifle. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. For my boy. It and the Fierce Rogue are tight competitors. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. Honestly, you need to review one. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I loved the way it shot and felt. Love your videos and reviews thanks a ton. I would have to agree that no higher end rifle list should ever not have a Mod 70 or a Sako on it. Great choices, Andrew. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc NRA Gun Of The Week: Franchi USA Momentum Elite Varmint First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Its that or the ruger American in 6.5. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. Hi Jim, Thank you for your time. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Jim, based on your reviews and several others, Id really like go with the 6.8 Western. I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). Weatherby also makes it in some non Weatherby calibers. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. There are many rifles above the $2k price point. I still love wood stocks. What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. To wit: 1. Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. What would you like to know? Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. Italians know firearms and so do the Finns. Second is the on top the receiver scope mounts are based on Savage Accutrigger not Remington. Hello Jim, I am in the market for a new rifle and have really narrowed it down between the Fierce Rival and the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review - Guns and Ammo The Weatherby Vanguard Meateater edition comes with Cerakote, threaded barrel, stiff stock and a pretty decent 2 stage trigger. Surprisingly accurate. It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. Jim love the reviews and the Channel. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? Browning X-Bolt vs Tikka T3/x - M*CARBO Best purchase I ever made. $1,299.00. Franchi Rifles - EuroOptic.com I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. Those are cool, but very heavy guns. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? Not many have been around since they are new this year. 150 grain federal fusion groups sub 1inch or better every time. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. It looks like a real great gun. I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. Wont win any extra points for its weight but seems like a quality affordable and very accurate rifle. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. Watch my review here. what do you think of it? Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage It is a three lug 60 deg. Mine is in 223 for chucks. I am over 50 now an i have owned and hunted 21 different rifles, that will be all brands from Rem 700, Browning , tikka, several Blasers and Sakos, Heym and some more. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. Is it felt more? I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. The plasticky stock is Pure junk. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. Capacity: 4+1 I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. How us that helping? I preferred the action on the FME a lil bit over the CVA, but I could not get over how every Franchi had stock contact somewhere along the barrel. Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews.

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