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They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. Thank you. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. Use natural seal. It offers a bigger margin of profit. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Here are some of my samples. Bona white oak @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. I will post pictures. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Refinish Red Oak Flooring How Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. It could be as low as $2/sf. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. They just don't get any DARKER over time. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? 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Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. White Oak - which Bona sealer @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? and I wish we had another layer of protection. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. less. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. Don't test just with sealer. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? This only matters for porosity not hardness. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. think it turned out well. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? It still should not come off. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. It's a installer issue. It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. what made you decide to go with natural. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. Bona Naturale will also do this. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. Very patient. Nice, eh?! if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. The above comments are right. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Kitchen of the Week: Brick, Wood and Clean White Lines, Kitchen of the Week: A Designer's Budget Wood-and-White Makeover, New This Week: 3 Beautifully Balanced White Kitchens, Kitchen of the Week: White, Wood, Gray and a Backsplash Surprise, 5 Countertops That Look Beautiful in a White Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Fans of Traditional Style Go For a Mad Men Look. I have it in my home. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. I know I've gone on for a while. Thank you! I hope they hold up to daily use. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. Absolutely, I can see that. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. 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Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? Thank you for asking. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). It doesn't make sense. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. They are dry and need one more day to cure. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. ! When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! Whaaaaat???? How are things holding up a ~year later? Absolutely love the matte finish. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Do you think there is any major issue with this? 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Is that really that difficult? And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. :). Hi M, thank you! I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. A red oak floor does not need sealant. @tkgriff Love the floor. Natural These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. bona Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. You have NOT hired installer yet! If, you want a raw pale look. One other question. You have a special floor. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. When was the last coat applied? It is a work of art. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. This is a platform for people to help one another. The supplier may help you out. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. And like all things "time is money". In Honor Of Design Bona I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Do you have high ceilings ? How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. HELP!!! Absolutely love the matte finish. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. My tub with quartz top. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. Getting gloomy from cool gray? @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! Thanks. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). The floor guys made custom floor vents. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Milesi Natural 2k? Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Good luck! Yep. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. That makes SOOOO much sense. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Thanks! It was applied Saturday morning. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. Then the next day a coat of finish. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). Make your home a homage to Scandinavian style or simply add a few nicely Nordic touches with this checklist of key features, Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Engineered wood flooring offers classic looks and durability. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! Here are our raw floors right now. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. The coating should not come up. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. It was applied Saturday morning.". In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Bona Thanks again! No one does work for free. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? I could only post one photo at a time. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. They were super rich! This was such a great informative thread. Thanks so much! A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. I personally love Quartzite. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. Get ready for a LONG story! Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. Bona G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? Any help appreciated! We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. The 'raw' look is a special look. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Great photos and beautiful floors! The pillow is from our sofa. Heres a photo of our family room. Finished with three matte protective coats. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal?
